What do they have in common?

Red Flag Laws and the current Impeachment Inquiry, what do they have in common? Some would say secrecy and no due process.

Secrecy.

There really is and was no secrecy in the impeachment inquiry unless you count the fact that it began behind closed doors. Even with that the “witnesses” were paraded about in the open. The media seemed to know what they would or might say even before the opening statements were made or questions were asked. Seems like some testimony may have “leaked” out.

It was no secret that the House had launched an impeachment inquiry. It is no secret as to who have been called to testify. Now the impeachment inquiry has moved to the public phase. The whole spectacle is televised and broken up into videos and recordings are made and broken up into soundbites with those on both sides playing the snippets or soundbites that aid their side. The media is right there to tell the public all they “need” to know, “unbiased” of course.

Are red flag cases handled in the same manner? I kind of suspect that the whole process is conducted in secrecy. Witnesses are not paraded about in public. What happens there does not leak out.

The President knew this was coming, it has been in the forefront since the democrats took control of the House. He also knew who testified and knows who will testify. He can watch the spectacle or have others watch it and brief him on what was said or just catch the snippets and sound bites.

Does the person in a red flag case have any idea what is coming his or her way? Can that person watch the proceedings or have others watch it for him or her? Are there any snippets or soundbites? I kind of suspect that the person has no idea what is coming.

Due process.

Is the President right now at this moment getting due process at this stage of the impeachment inquiry? Yes and no.
He does not have his attorney representing him or his interests at the moment, that covers the no part.
He does, however, have the republican members of the House asking questions of the witnesses and there is a staff lawyer, that covers the yes part.

Does the person caught up in a red flag case get due process? The answer is no. He or she is not present at the proceedings, nor is there an attorney present to represent to him or her. In fact only the opposition is present, kind of a one sided trial. The Judge makes the final decision.

While this inquiry is going on the President and his team are preparing themselves.

The person in the red flag case has no way of preparing.

Now moving along to the outcome.
If the House decides to not proceed, that will be televised. The same will be true if the House brings the articles of impeachment up for a vote. The same will be true if the House passes the articles of impeachment and sends them forward to the Senate. The President will immediately know.

The person caught up in a red flag case will only know if the Judge issues an order to seize the persons firearms, and will know very soon. Most likely at a most inconvenient time. If the Judge is not convinced and does not issue the order the person will never know. If the Judge does issue the order, the firearms are seized. He or she gets due process after not before. The person then must go to court in an effort to get his property back. Failing to convince the Judge that he is or she is not a danger to themselves or others will mean that the person will never get their property back, never. By the way the person just lost his or her Second Amendment rights, even though they never committed a crime or had any intention to do so.

By now some of you may be wondering just why I am writing this. Glad you asked.

If you go back to last February and check you will find the President making these two statements or proposals among others.
First. In reference to the school shooting at Parkland and the perpetrator and his interactions with law-enforcement and the perpetrators firearms “Take them away if you have the right or not”.
Second. “Take the guns first then due process”.

So you will pardon me if I do not shed a tear for someone complaining about not getting due process when just last February he was proposing doing away with due process for all legal and lawful gun owners.

They have nothing in common, but they would have something in common if.

Now I could see complaining about no due process if the House held all the hearings in secrecy. Passed the articles in secrecy and passed those articles to the Senate. The Senate did their part in absolute secrecy and convicted the President in secrecy and removed the President. No due process at all. Now the President would have to present himself and plead his case to be restored as President. By the way, he would be pleading to be restored to the same people that had just kicked him out in secrecy. I know that the Office of the President is not anyone’s property, this is just to illustrate a danger of red flag laws.

Is the President going to get a fair shake? I would have to say, NO! Especially when one member of Congress said shortly after getting elected “Now we impeach the mother****er”. How do you think she would vote regardless of the evidence. Not when so many in Congress have already made up their minds and there minds will not be changed regardless of the evidence or the lack of evidence. Not when the media has already convicted him and is doing it’s best to convict him in the court of public opinion.

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