The coming ….

The coming civil war. One of the old definitions of civil war is the struggle for control of the government by rival political factions. If you were to apply that definition then this November America will reach the conclusion of another civil war. Every two years the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate set out to do battle, either to remain in power or to take power.

The primaries are now over here in Florida, now the winners of the republican and democrat primaries will set about trying to sell themselves to the voters. One good thing about the primaries being over is that less electioneering material will be cluttering up my mailbox, though it will continue until November.

Here in Marion County there was also a yes or no vote to continue a 1 mil tax for the Marion County School District, for 4 long years. As always when it comes to taxes I voted no, but I am sure the measure will pass. Last election there was a 1% sales tax for the County and it passed. I cant understand why voters continue to vote for higher taxes. Politicians, republican and democrat, do love them some taxes. Whether they impose those taxes or hoodwink the voters into imposing them on themselves. Update it passed with 73% voting yes, good grief.

Any way back to the civil war. When the primaries are all over the fight for control of the government will get underway in earnest. Not only will it for control of the government it will also be for control of the people. Remember government is all about power and control.

For the left(socialist democrats)this up coming election will be about gun control. The NRA will be nowhere on the ballot, that will not deter the left from demonizing the NRA and any politician who accepts donations from the NRA.

I do wish the voters would open their eyes for just a moment and look at those who are screaming the loudest for gun control. The politicians touting gun control are surrounded by armed security personnel. The millionaires and billionaires who fund these groups are surrounded by armed security. When elected to political office they have an entire police force protecting them. Yet they want you to give up your right to protection. It is not about the elimination of firearms, it is about controlling who has firearms.

There has been much speculation over which color the wave will be, red or blue. I look at it this way there is a 50/50 chance the socialist democrats will take either the House or the Senate or both. If you do not believe that then check out the turnout for the primaries in your state. As for me I am not buying into the “walk away” scam, where supposed democrats are saying they have left the democrat party, no not for a minute.

Now let us look at the possibilities coming with the conclusion of this civil war.

The socialist democrats take control of the House of Representatives but the republicans retain control of the Senate. A divided congress, not much in the way of meaningful legislation will make its way to the President. 50/50 chance of impeachment charges against the President, pretty much meaningless the republicans still hold the Senate. Just as meaningless as the republican controlled House and Senate sending legislation repealing the AHA to BHO(oddly enough something they can not do while a republican president sits in the Oval Office)they knew he would veto it.

The socialist democrats gain control of the Senate but the republicans retain the House. Again a divided Congress. Impeachment goes out the window. Impeachment proceedings begin in the House.

The socialist democrats take control of both the House and the Senate. A divided government. No meaningful legislation will get to the president’s desk. 50/50 chance of Impeachment of the president.

On a side note, look for a government shutdown or threat of a shutdown in each of the above scenarios over illegal immigrants(DACA or Dreamers).

Nothing changes, the republicans retain both the House and Senate, President Trump is still President. This one is a double edge sword, both good and bad. The GDP is above 4%, the economy is humming right along and unemployment is at record lows. None of that matters to the left.

This scenario is or should be the one causing law-enforcement the most angst. If this scenario come to fruition the leftist protesters(rioters)will take to the streets the same as when President Trump was elected. This time it could be much worse, and most likely will be. Law-0enforcement could have its hands full and quite possibly could be overwhelmed, unable to maintain law and order.

On a side note look for a government shutdown or threats of a shutdown over illegal immigration(DACA and Dreamers)and/or if the republicans refuse to go along with gun control legislation.

Politically this nation is a “tinder box” and some on the left continue to add gasoline. The confrontations between left wing and right wing groups are becoming increasing violent. When people show up to protest wearing helmets and carrying things that could quickly become weapons or weapons that appear to be something else they are not there to protest or counter protest they instead have come to fight.

At this rate it wont be long until some dumb-ass tosses a lit match into that “tinder box”, then it is gonna be “Katie bar the door”.

DEO VINDICE

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What could go wrong?

In years past when the democrats(socialists)had the whole federal ball of wax(the House, the Senate and the Presidency)they would have never have dreamed to go for broke(repeal the Second Amendment) much less even mention the idea. They placated the gun control cult by nibbling around the edges of the pie that is the Second Amendment. That was then, this is now. Now many in the gun control cult have come out and said as much, one even “penned” an op-ed. So, what happened? Florida happened.

Shortly after the school shooting at MSD in Parkland, the Florida legislature passed gun control legislation and the governor signed it into law. Thing is that the Florida government is controlled by the republicans(House, Senate and Governor). The gun control cult finally had a republican state in their corner. I believe they got more than they really expected, they never could/would have dreamed a group of NRA endorsed republicans would hop aboard the gun control train. Like the proverbial camel, it/they got its/their nose in the tent.

The left sees this as their time to strike, strike while the iron is hot. They have the propaganda arm of the democrats/gun control cult/leftist/globalists(again your choice)the MSM behind them as well as the “children”.

The DNC is being pushed, pulled or dragged(your choice)further to the left, this is being done by their own Frankenstein. The Frankenstein they created in the education system is now poised to take over the party.

The democrats/gun control cult/leftists/globalists(yet again your choice)will undoubtedly bring up some of their old ideas as well as some new schemes to go after law-abiding gun owners. They have been unable with their schemes be able to do anything about the criminal element.

They will bring up a national firearms registry. Requiring all citizens to register their firearms. We all know the result of registration, it will lead to confiscation. On a side note it was not Hitler that had firearms registered. He used what the previous government(the Weimar Republic)had done in the name of safety, registered firearms. Hitler was able to use the gun registration list to selectively disarm(confiscate personal weapons)his opposition as well as those who he would eliminate(murder or have murdered). I suppose that at some time in the future the leftists will once again have the whole ball of wax.

Let us go back to registration for just a minute. I am sure that this scheme will need to be a searchable database, which means that it will also be a hackable database. That firearms registry in the wrong hands could be devastating, it would provide a shopping list for criminals, names, addresses and type(s)of weapon(s). We would never have to worry about this list being weaponized, turned against us. Would we? Who would be granted access to this list? For what purpose?

Would banks/mortgage companies, doctors, school administrators, insurance companies or employers have access? You could find yourself unable to get a mortgage, loan, education or a job just because you chose to exercise your Second Amendment Rights. To secure those things you would possibly have to give up your Second Amendment Rights.

If this ever happens, and becomes law if you listen carefully you could hear the criminals running down to the registrars office to register their weapons, Not. The criminal element does not obey the law, if they did they would not be criminals. What on God’s green earth makes a politician/leftist think that a criminal will obey this one? Simple answer, they know the criminals will not obey the law, and they don’t give a tinker’s damn.

What happens if the law-abiding citizens refuse to comply?

They now want the Church to come out for gun control, claiming it to be a big pro-life issue. The silence is deafening from most churches when it come to speaking out against abortion(infanticide), a real pro-life issue.

They propose a mandatory gun buy-back on certain types of weapons, this is no more than confiscation. It will never stop with just one certain type or class of firearm. Again if this ever becomes law the criminal element will not be going to the local buy-back office. I am sure the price offered will be fair, Not. Pennies on the dollar at best.

What happens if the citizens refuse to comply?

Read a post today where surprise, surprise democrats had proposed legislation requiring citizens obtain(purchase)a license to own or purchase firearms or ammunition. The criminals will say “License, we don’t need no stinking license.

Again, what happens when the citizens refuse to comply?

There is no law the leftist politicians can pass that will ever change criminals into law-abiding citizens. I am quite sure that while I am writing this many more schemes were being hatched by the leftists.

I do have to wonder why it is so important to the left that the citizens be denied the right to possess firearms. There has to be a reason. Nothing they have done has prevented a single act of violence by a criminal that was committed with a gun.

Actions have consequences, whether intended or not. Will some comply with any of these if they become law? I suppose that a few will. Then what? Who would be chosen to enforce these laws? Could they even be enforced?

DEO VINDICE.

Now they try this

The gun control cult will try anything to get us to relinquish our rights as owners of firearms. They now go to the church and try to shame Christians. They use the same old tactics and spread the same lies(drivel)but now some in their cult are doing it from the Church.

Came upon a post in the WordPress reader this morning, not one that I follow and have never seen it before but the title grabbed me so I read it, glad I did. The post is entitled Guns as Idolatry posted on the 28th. I did not link to it and I will sure as heck not re-blog this one. In this case paraphrasing his words would not do so his is word for word. His words are his words my words are my words. We need to know where these people(hide)are and what they do. This individual claims to be a Youth Pastor, and in his words has been one all of his life. Personally I would not let my children anywhere near this man. He put it out there I am obliged to respond.

I will admit when I saw the title I had my suspicions of where this post would lead, just by the title. Even with that suspicion I did read the whole post through, which is something this man will not do when or if he comes across this post being my response. He will stop as soon as he realizes I am on the opposite side.

Well here it is.

(His words)I have to admit, I grew up loving all types of guns. I was the typical full-blooded American boy. I could turn anything into a gun. Give me a stick, it’s a gun. Give me a pile of Lego’s and guess what I would always create . . . a gun! And then Star Wars came out and I wanted to be Han Solo with a laser gun strapped to my waist. Every young boy is fascinated with guns. But this is the realm of fantasy, whether it is imitating a cowboy, a sci-fi space pirate, a gangster or a cop. My teen years were even more influenced by the way of the gun to solve problems through the cinematic influences of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis. There are no aliens, terminators, Nazi’s, Russian’s, or bad guys that a good gun with an all-American superhero could not stop.

He referenced a “good gun”. So I think his point was it was “fantasy” to believe a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, not sure because of the wording he used. It is not fantasy that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns. It is however under reported. It is under reported because the MSM has become the propaganda arm of the leftist gun control cult. If they believe it to be fantasy, why do they always call the cops, the cops are the good guys and they bring guns, sometimes they bring their friends with their guns. So stop living in a fantasy world by calling the cops every time a bad guy comes into someone’s life. By the way the vast majority of Civilians are also good guys, they also have friends, I have heard no complaints when a good guy “civilian” stops a bad guy when he/she comes into someone’s life.

(His words)Unfortunately our country is in a moral quandary with the fact that we are seeing more and more actual gun violence playing out in real-life America. It is getting to the point where it seems like every week we are introduced to another news story of someone taking out their grievances by using guns on innocent victims. Whenever this happens it seems like a majority of Americans are broken by the cycle of violence that we seem to find ourselves in. And yet there seems to be a small but powerful segment of America that digs their heals in and praises the 2nd Amendment despite all the gun violence we are experiencing as a nation. Now I have no problem if someone chooses to own a gun for the purposes of hunting or home protection. But what I am witnessing is that the gun has become a form of idolatry within our country. When the “right” to own certain types of weaponry trumps the lives of innocent victims, I have a problem with that, especially with those who claim to be apart of the community of Christians.

Here he “comes out” to reveal what I suspected from the start. In true leftist fashion he is blaming the gun not and not the person. The violence you blame on the Second Amendment would be much greater without the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment was not written so we could hunt. Just for your education the Second Amendment was written because of the following and it comes to us straight out of the Declaration of the Causes and Necessity of Taking Up Arms July 6, 1775. One of the Founding Documents of this country you claim as being in a quandary.

The inhabitants of Boston being confined within that town by the general their governor, and having, in order to procure the dismission, entered into a treaty with him, it was stipulated that the said inhabitants having deposited their arms with their own magistrate, should have liberty to depart, taking with them their other effects. They accordingly delivered up their arms, but in open violation of honour, in defiance of the obligations of treaties, which even savage nations esteemed sacred, the governor ordered the arms deposited as aforesaid, that they might be preserved for their owners, to be seized by a body of soldiers; detained the greatest part of the town, and compelled the few who were permitted to retire, to leave their most valuable effects behind.

That, Sir, is why we have the Second Amendment. It was not deer, rabbits or squirrels that confined those people to that town. Nor was it the aforementioned animals that denied them their most valuable effects. Now as to idolatry, I have yet to pray before anything but the Lord, never have never will. You seem to think a person can not own a firearm and still worship the Lord.

(His words)I will be straight up, I have never owned a weapon. I can’t justify it theologically, nor do I feel that I would want to bear the responsibility to own one. With kids in my home and working as a pastor, I see that owning a weapon would be hypocritical to what I believe. First of all, I am not a hunter. I have no problem with those who choose to do so, but this born-and-raised suburbanite could not find the will to kill any of God’s creation. I couldn’t do it. I will leave that task up to people who have a stomach for that type of thing.

He has never owned a weapon, if he had he would know that guns do three things; 1 they work 2 they don’t work 3 they rust. He we go with the leftist drivel, he could not justify owning one. Why is it that the left always want justification for owning a firearm. How about this for justification, because I want to, not mention what happened in Boston in 1775. He thought he would be a or seen as a hypocrite if he owned one being a pastor and having children around. He also points that he is not a hunter but has no problem with those that do. Here we go again with the hunting thing. Being a born and raised suburbanite he could not muster the will to kill any of God’s creation, didn’t have the stomach. More on this as the post unfolds.

(His words)Have I ever shot weapons for sport? Absolutely! I have been to gun ranges. I have shot clay pigeons. And I actually enjoy the sport of paintball in that you can actually play games against each other without death and carnage occurring. I grew up on video games with digital guns (especially Goldeneye!), and I loved movies with lots of guns, superheroes and villains.

Here he brings up weapons for sport been to the range and has shot clay pigeons, interjecting the sports shooting thing the left is famous for. He fails to mention if he had a range safety course, safe handling of firearms. So he enjoys the sport of paintball, pointing out that you can actually play games against each other without actually causing death and carnage, pretend death and carnage. He grew up on video games with digital guns and loved movies with lots of guns, superheroes and villains. I would point out that maybe we should have never made a game of killing. This goes back to the responsibility issue, one is not held responsible for what they do in a game, you can make all the mistakes you want and just say “oops”. No punishment no penalty.

(His words)But there is a difference between fantasy and reality. Our country has a huge obsession with weapons and we fail to see the benefit to having a conversation about how we can best protect the greater good of people and still respect responsible gun owners. We desperately need to have this conversation. Instead, we see the NRA, backed by some of its supporters, constantly raising the warning that the government is coming to take you guns away and destroy the 2nd amendment. This simply is fear-mongering at its worst. And what is the purpose of such fear mongering? To sell more weapons. The NRA played this card all throughout the Obama administration. Any suggestion to talk about gun violence and gun safety was always met with cries that they are coming for your guns! Now that our own kids who are victims of gun violence are speaking up they are being called out as terrorists and liberals.

Wow. We have been trying to talk to them, we have talked to them until we are blue in the face. They are the ones who refuse to talk, they only make demands. In true leftist fashion attacks the NRA. Accusing them of fear mongering. As for them coming for our guns and trying to destroy the Second Amendment, maybe he missed the op-ed written by a former Justice of the Supreme Court when he offered his opinion that it was time to repeal the Second Amendment. Maybe he missed the interview where the “queen of confiscation” said if she could have gotten enough votes in the Senate it would have been “Turn then in Mr. and Mrs. America, turn all of them in”, I believe she mention the number 51. Not to mention many in his cult have come right out and said the same thing. I might point this out to the gentleman that the kids are not the victims of guns or gun violence(as you call it)they are instead the victims of other kids, violent kids. Was it an adult or one of those precious children that was shouting “Burn Her, Burn Her” at the NRA representative, Dana Loesch during the town-hall? Just who is it that resorts to name calling when they loser or begin to lose a debate? As to the obsession with guns he alluded to I will get to who is obsessed and with what later in this post.

(His words)I have heard tired and lazy arguments to blame everything else other than the easy access we have created within our culture to be able to get any type of weapon you want. It’s video games! It’s the entertainment industry! It’s medications! It’s mental health! It’s the breakdown of the family! It’s because we took God out of the schools (which actually is HORRIBLE theology of God’s omnipresence)! We want to blame everything else other than the fact that we have ridiculously easy access to weaponry that is designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time.

So he grows tired of the same argument we put forward as possible causes. He really proves how little he knows about guns. We can not just have anything we want, somethings are totally prohibited and something require a special tax and approval just to possess making them out of reach for the average citizen. Of course he blame the easy access to firearms, yet above he admitted to never owning a firearm, therefore he has no direct knowledge of it being either easy or difficult. Again just regurgitating what he has been feed, which is a line of crap.

(His words)So, being that I have never gone through the process of actually owning any type of weapon, I propose the following if it is not already law:
1.Buying a gun should have a process that is similar to getting a driver’s license. One should have to get a license to own a weapon. I understand that this is the case but there are still loopholes in which people can buy weapons without going through this process. Recently a news story showed an underage boy trying to buy cigarettes, alcohol and pornography at a local convenient store and got denied in all three instances. But then they took him down to a gun show where within minutes he walked away with a high-powered weapon. He was a 13 year old.
2.Which brings me to my second point, the age of owning a gun needs to go up to 21. Now that we better understand the brain development of teens, and their ability to be impulsive without thinking thorough the consequences of their actions, we should not be providing them with weapons that kill. Give them time to develop and grow. They need to earn the responsibility to own a weapon.
3.When a teenager causes a death that was influenced by being under the influence of alcohol the parents are held responsible if the alcohol came from their home. I am tired of mindless parents of school shooters having no clue that their kid was into said violence. This is not responsible gun ownership or parenting. They need to start bearing the responsibility for the actions of their child/teen. Having high-powered weaponry easily available to their kids is the height of irresponsibility. We hear a lot about “law-abiding” gun owners but let’s talk about RESPONSIBLE gun owners instead. If your kids uses your guns to shoot up a bunch of innocents then you lost your responsibility to own guns and you should be held accountable for the consequences.
4.There needs to be a national gun registry. We need to be able to track where weapons have come from and hold those people responsible. The government already knows what vehicles I own and apparently anyone can pull up a CarFax to know the history of my cars. Why can’t this be done within the context of weapons?
5.The CDC needs to be able to study gun violence. Why would we not want this? And the bigger question is why would the NRA prevent this from happening? The more we know, the better equipped we will be to tackle this plague of gun violence within our country.
6.One should have to have a certain amount of recorded training in order to own a weapon. My teens have to go through 50 hours of driving experience with a licensed adult in order to qualify to take their driving test! Why can’t we require this type of training before one can own a gun?
7.I am tired of our politicians being owned by special-interest lobbies, in this case, the NRA. The NRA bears some of the responsibility for where we have found ourselves because they stoke the flames of fear that people are trying to eradicate the 2nd Amendment and do all they can to prevent legitimate research that would help us know more about when, where and why gun violence is happening. We need to vote out politicians who accept money from the NRA and ignore the voices of those who voted them in. I have not found one quote in which someone wants to eradicate the 2nd amendment. I want gun owners to be responsible and not cave in to the constant fear-mongering of the NRA. Is it just me, or is it not so obvious that this constant fear-mongering helps to sell more guns which benefits the gun manufacturers? Someone is becoming ridiculously rich off all this fear mongering. Why do people cave into this so easily? Is it just plain ignorance, gullibility, or naivety? There is no doubt in my mind that we have experienced a “dumbing-down” in America. Have we just become that stupid that we do not see when we are being played?

Well, looky here he never has been through the process of buying firearm, yet above he said it was ridiculously easy. He aint even sure if what he suggests is a law or not, Lordy.
Point 1. Truth is it is far easier to get a driver’s license than to get approved to purchase a fire arm, in some of the leftist states they will allow anybody a to get a driver’s license even if they are in this country illegally. Are you sure you want to lower the standards? Besides a drivers license is a privilege while owning a firearm is a right. So if he suggests having a license to exercise rights, would he be okay with getting a license to exercise his First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh or Eighth? Thirdly he mentions the mythical loophole the left say exists, for the umpteenth time there is no loophole. Fourthly, Good God, man, crimes were committed was anybody arrested. There was at the least conspiracy in his news story, conspiracy to corrupt a minor. Was the fellow who sold the gun to the 13-year-old arrested? Did this even happen, come on? News reporters do not have the right to commit crimes to prove a point or get a story. I do hope that if this real you had the common sense to report this to law-enforcement. There should be at least three people sitting in jail right now because of this, the two(at least two)people(you did say they)who were corrupting the minor and the one who sold him the gun(I say sold because based on experience there is nothing available at a gun show for free). He accuses the NRA of fear mongering. What does that say about his first point, fear mongering?
Point 2. Did the brain development of teens slow down over time, their brains developed just fine a few years back. Just how, pray tell does one earn responsibility? Did he mean right? Besides if the age limit was raised to 21 you next would demand 25.
Point 3. His third point is going to cause a boom in the construction industry. Never once did he mention punishing the child for his crime. He qualified the drunken kid excuse with statement if the alcohol came from their home. He knows full well that there is no way to prove when much less where the child got snockered. He further claims that he is tired of mindless parents of school shooters having no clue that their kid was into said violence, saying this was not responsible gun ownership or parenting. They need to start bearing the responsibility for the actions of their child/teen. He went on claiming the height of irresponsibility was having high-powered weaponry easily available to their kids. He is also tired of the talk about law-abiding gun owners, he wants to talk about RESPONSIBLE gun owners. He then says, if your kids uses guns to shoot up a bunch of innocents then you just lost your responsibility to own guns and you should be held accountable for the consequences. Wow, where to start? I will just say for now that he wants the parent and the gun to be responsible. He fails to hold the child/teen/kid accountable. Perhaps he does not understand that law-abiding gun owners are responsible gun owners. Once again he uses the word responsibility where I think he meant to use the word right. So if his kid were to kill someone while he/she was driving and texting he would lose his responsibility(right)to own a car and a cell phone. Better build more prisons.
Point 4. His fourth point is that we need a national gun registry, because he has to register his cars and apparently anyone can pull up a Carfax on his car and know the history of it and he wants to know why this can not be applied in the context of guns. I could point that historically speaking gun registries have spelled disaster, but instead I will use this. Would he be happy registering all of his effects with the government? Given the hacks on information, he might just be uncomfortable if some nefarious person would gain access to what he has, you know just in case they wanted it? Then they could just enter Stuff Fax. And again driving is a privilege owning a firearm is a right.
Point 5. he thinks we need a study by the CDC and he accuses the NRA of trying to prevent this. He wants this study because the more we know the better we can tackle this plague of gun violence. He might just not like the results when the results of that study comes out, provided they were to conduct an honest study and our side is proven right.
Point 6. Has he never heard of hunters safety courses? I might also mention the NRA has partnered with others to provide firearms training. Even with the training required to become a licensed driver children still die, far more children are lost to motor vehicle accident than to what he calls gun violence.
Point 7. His biggest beef is with the politicians who get financial support from the NRA. He wants all NRA backed politicians backed by the NRA voted out. He also claims the NRA bears some of the responsibility for where we have found our selves because they stoke the flames of fear. He says, He has not found one quote in which someone wants to eradicate the Second Amendment. He must have missed the op-ed by the former Justice and the interview with the “queen of confiscation”. He wants gun owners to be responsible and quit caving into the fear mongering of the NRA. He goes on by asking several questions that I feel he should ask himself. Especially the one, on just plain ignorance, gullibility and naivety. He then states, There is no doubt that America has experienced a dumbing-down. Then he asks, Have we become that stupid that we can not see that we are being played? I have a question in response, just who has been dumbed-down? By reading your post, the entire thing I would say that the answer to the last question, in your case is yes.

(His words)And finally, the most disappointing thing I believe in all of this is that the church is not the leading voice in wanting to stop this carnage. We as Christians need to speak up louder against gun violence. This is a BIG pro-life issue! It is the height of hypocrisy to act so sanctimonious about life in the womb but ignore lives affected by gun violence. If you believe that there is a real devil who is out to destroy God’s creation then you have to see that he is celebrating our idolatry to weapons and reveling about each loss of life. The Bible teaches that he has come to kill, steal and destroy. If you are defending the current state that we find ourselves in you can not claim to be following the way of Jesus. Jesus is the Prince of Peace who told his followers to turn the other cheek, pray for your enemies, and to bless those who curse you. He was the very one who took on all the violence directed at him on the cross and defeated all his enemies through love, self-sacrifice, non-violence and resurrection. We are encouraged to pray “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven”. We are supposed to be ushering in a new way of life as a community that is radically different from the status-quo, yet the modern-day American church has unfortunately become a mere reflection of our culture. We have allowed empire worship to trump Christ worship and we don’t see the difference between the two.

So he thinks the time is right for the churches to come out for gun control, being the leading voice. I guess he never heard of the table being overturned and the money-changers being driven from the Temple.

(His words)I have been a youth pastor all my life. I am grieved beyond words for the kind of country we have created for our kids. We have been in a perpetual war ever since 9/11, we are spending ridiculous amounts on our military while Flint, Michigan still doesn’t have clean water and Puerto Rico doesn’t have full power. I honestly believe that we have become more of a reflection of the Biblical state of Babylon than the mythical “Christian nation” that some still believe. It is time we stop hunkering down to protect our “rights” and begin to break out of our selfishness and lust for power, and start thinking about what is best for the next generation of kids growing up. It is time to take our eyes off of the idols we have created and focus back on our kids who are dying. It is easy to read the Bible and be horrified that the Israelites got to the point where they were literally sacrificing their children to the god Molech. But I fail to see the difference between that and where we are at right now. We have more innocent Americans who have been murdered by gun violence within our country than service people in the line of duty! That’s just crazy and should be a big wake-up call for our entire country but especially the Church!

Where did he find those statistics?

(His words)So if you are a Christian and a gun owner, I would encourage you to advocate for sensible gun laws and consider what is best for the greater good of humanity. Think about your own children, think about your local schools, think about your communities. Every mass shooting has the same response: “I never thought it would happen here!” Why do we have to defend our rights until the violence comes to our own communities? Let’s come together as the body of Christ and be the kingdom that we are called to be and shake off the dirt of the Empire that we are entangled in.

Just another social justice warrior.

(His words)Lord have mercy on this nation.

His last statement is the only thing I can agree with him on. I cut my answer short on the last three, this post has gotten long, real long. If you are still here at this point I really appreciate it and thank you. I did it this way because I felt this should be exposed, again sorry about the length. Bear with me just a bit more.

I am nowhere near done with this, he has given me much ammunition.

If you attend Church and I hope that you do, please pay attention to the message being “preached”. This man claims to be a Youth Pastor, he is preaching to the kids. I am quite sure that he is not the only one.

DEO VINDICE

It is time, past time, to try something else

The height of insanity, as they say, is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So if what you are doing aint working try something else.

Grab a cup of coffee, it is a long one.

Another shooting in a gun free zone, this time at a school in Texas. Was just recently we had another in Florida, Marion County. The shooter in Texas was a student at the school he attacked, the two in Florida were former students of the schools they attacked.

The fact that these schools were gun free zones did little, actually nothing, to dissuade these three villains. In fact it only made things safer for the perpetrators of these violent acts. The only opposition they faced was a SRO, the one in Broward County failed(to put it mildly), the one in Marion County was “Johnny on the spot” though the villain had already surrendered to a teacher. There was also a school shooting in Maryland not too long ago, that SRO also responded in a timely manner, and again the shooting was in-progress.

So let us look at what is not working.
What is not working is the gun free zones of our school system. Being a gun free zone has not deterred a school shooter. I don’t believe it ever has or ever will. That sign only has an effect on law-abiding citizens. I have often wondered just what prompted the primary, secondary and post-secondary school campuses to be legislated into gun free zones. Was it because of just one incident or a series of incidents? Was it a knee-jerk reaction to a tragedy? Was there suddenly an epidemic outbreak of guns at schools? They say that “Life is a two-way street”. Life in a gun free zone is a one-way street. If an attack occurs the bullets are only going in one direction towards the intended victim, that is until armed help shows up.

So what about the SRO, is it working? Yes and no. Much like the cop on the beat he can not be everywhere at once, but his or her presence is or can be a deterrent. Think about this, would you “blow through” a red light if there was a cop car sitting at the intersection? Of course you would not. The SRO much like most law-enforcement waits for a call for service during his or her patrol. If he or she observes something in the course of there patrol they are expected to take appropriate action. When it comes to preventing crime, police presence can deter crime, but is no guarantee, some criminals are determined and will proceed no matter what. In a shooting situation the SRO only responds after the first shot is fired. The cop on the beat responds to a crime in progress.

There is a more important question, concerning the SRO, and that question is why is there a necessity of having law-enforcement in our schools? I believe that the SRO is in the school system because some of the student body is “off the chain”, no self-control(self-discipline) the total lack of the ability to “police” themselves and no respect and the fact that the school system has lost control of the schools and the students. I do not believe for a moment that the SRO was ever put in place to respond to a shooting, that task has just been added to his or her list of responsibilities.

Further gun control measures directed at the law-abiding gun owning citizens. This one speaks for its self. Criminals are not going to care one iota about staying within the law.

I think everyone can agree on the fact that these types of shootings should never happen again. But for even a chance to at least limit these acts we must first abandon the failed course we have taken, in other words it is time to make a “hard pivot”. The left likes to say; “If these measures save even one life then they are worth it”. There is no evidence that gun free zones or the associated signage have ever saved a life, not one. I would wager that no armed criminal has ever walked away because a sign said the citizens therein were unarmed. There is also no evidence that a SRO has ever prevented a single school shooting, the two schools in Florida had an SRO, and still shootings occurred. Therefore it is time to try something else.

Let us then look at and examine some other approaches that could be considered. One could also look at the chances of success.

In my school days, back in the last ice age, we did not ever see a cop at school much less have one posted at the school. In High School, I would venture to say that almost all of the pick-up trucks in the student parking lot had a gun in it, especially if it was hunting season yet we did not shoot each other. I would imagine there were guns in school staff cars and trucks as well. Something has changed. There was no need of an SRO in my day, but then again we were a respectful lot. Nowadays students being “off the Chain” is perhaps why the schools have and need a SRO.

So the current thinking is to harden the schools. The Broward and Marion county incidents prove that entry into schools is to easy, neither of these two chaps had any business being where they were. One possible thing is to have fewer entry and exit points(controlled). Installing metal detectors is another option. Is armed school staff an option? Yes and no. Depending on how the school is laid out arming the teachers may be a bad idea. If the classrooms are still laid out nowadays as they were in my school days having armed teachers is a stupid idea. In my day the teacher sat at the head of the class, farthest from the door with the students between the teacher and the door(the only exit, one way in and one way out). If a shooter were to enter the classroom the teacher if he or she responded would have to shoot over or through the students, running around in a panic. Arming administrative and support staff is a better option, but they must be willing to carry out that mission and undergo training. If they aint willing that option goes out the window. Carrying a firearm comes with great responsibility. That responsibility is why a lot of people choose not to carry a firearm. Using the firearm under stress is yet another matter. Then again there is the political machine(agenda)that must be overcome.

Would more SROs be an option? Yes, but they are expensive or maybe not. What ever happened to Reserve Deputies and Auxiliary Police Officers? You may remember, citizen law-enforcement, working with law-enforcement for free in their own communities. They had the same training as regular law-enforcement, had to pass the same background checks and had the same authority. Now the schooling is not free or cheap, nor is the in-service training. But something could be worked out to pay for the training and it may not be as expensive as one might think. I would venture to say that each and every community(school district)has many if not hundreds of capable and qualified citizens in their midst, retired military(including military police), retired law-enforcement(including correctional officers). Many of these would jump at the chance to serve again, they already have much of the training required and would have no problem with a background check. Speaking of training dollars, how many could have been trained with the money wasted watching shrimp on a treadmill? How many could be paid with the money given to abortion providers? But still the only deterrent offered is their presence.

School Protection Teams could be established, groups of trained and armed individuals patrolling the school grounds.

There are other things that could be considered. Like perhaps talking with the Israelis and finding out how they prevent mass shootings at their schools, if what I read is correct they have only had one. That one was years back and none since. Please do not use the argument that firearms in the hands of Israeli citizens is not as “prolific” as private firearm ownership here in America. Firearms have been in this country since the very beginning, these mass shootings are a product of recent times. It has been reported that there may be as many as 300,000,000 firearms in this country, if guns were a problem there would really be a problem. It is not the gun, it is the person with the gun. The hardening of the schools by arming the staff and placing a SRO in each school still invokes a reactionary approach. Perhaps it would be better to keep them out of the schools, the Israeli’s seem to have done that. The Israeli’s have found it easier to keep them out rather than fight them once them they get in. An ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure.

I as well as others have said that we do not have a gun problem, what we have is a people problem. It seems that nowadays violence is the first option. How many times has it been reported of an argument going straight to a shooting? Look at what happened just outside of Atlanta this past weekend, across the street from a graduation ceremony. People, some people, just have lost the art of communicating, they however are prone to violence. Back in my youth when we had a problem we first tried to talk it out(resolve it), after all reasonable attempts were exhausted we took it behind the field house and settled it there. There were even times where it was decided that the best course of action was to keep a respectable distance between the parties involved until things worked themselves out. They almost always did. Thing is that most involved became life-long friends. I my day violence was the last option considered and was the exception not the rule.

Perhaps something like a think tank could be formed to come up with a solution, a group of rational adults with no particular political motivation and no agenda. Well that just killed that idea. Seriously, we need to stop looking to government to do anything to prevent or to even limit mass shootings. It was government that gave us the gun free schools. The only thing government is good at is either spending or wasting money, even if it means that more money must be spent or wasted. Government thought they could eliminate poverty by giving people money they did not earn and certainly were not entitled to, today welfare is referred to as an entitlement. Their welfare created dependence on government as the producers earned more the moochers needed more. The two longest wars are the war on poverty and the war on drugs.

We need to look to “We the People” to come up with a solution.

A school uniform might lessen the school shootings. How many times has jealousy brought about acts of violence? Uniforms do make a person not in one to stand out as not belonging. I can hear it now, “My clothes are freedom of expression, you are trampling my rights”. Then there is always the left and “the poor cant afford school uniforms” crap. Hell, they cant even afford identification according to the left. How do they live? Private Schools have uniforms. Do not those student have rights also? Go ahead say how the poor cant afford private schools. I point this out, the parents that pay to send their children to private schools are also the one’s footing the bill to pay for the public schools, you know property taxes. They pay twice and still manage to fund the school uniforms, if you rent you pay nothing and still cant fund the school uniforms. Knock of the “pity party” and do better for yourself and your children.

How about we demand that that stupid sign be removed? You know the one that says, “Gun free zone”. Replacing it with one that has the wording similar to,
“Warning”
The Staff and Faculty herein is Heavily Armed, Highly Trained, Highly Motivated and Dedicated Beyond Belief and they will Use any Force necessary, up to and including Deadly Force, to protect the Lives and Well-Being of those placed in our Trust.
Stupid People Win Stupid Prizes.
Do Not Test Our Resolve.
This Is And Will Be Your Only Warning.

Whether or not it is true(the statement on the proposed sign)the above warning may give “pause” to someone with evil intentions. The other sign certainly has not. After all, using the logic of the left, “if it only saves one life it would be worth it”.

By the way, if memory serves schools are also “drug free” zones, the schools must be very successful at combating drugs while failing miserably at keeping guns out of schools. We are not bombarded with coverage of drug busts at schools, the schools must have won the war on drugs. If the schools have won the war on drugs, please tell the federal government your secret, it appears they could use some help. My guess is that drugs are prevalent yet we hear nothing of the drugs.

Maybe the media should end the practice of constantly showing the face of and mentioning the name of the villain. Yesterday nobody even heard of that POS and as soon as the deed is done the face and the name of the POS is everywhere. Instant recognition, now everybody knows their name, much like the so-called talent shows that invade the homes(by invitation)almost nightly. Instant fame. When a person wins one of those “talent shows” how many are inspired by the fame and recognition. How many are inspired by those who carry out these vile acts, because of the coverage they get? Mention their name once, either that whoever is now dead or captured. If the POS was captured the name should be mentioned once more when a guilty verdict comes in. Unless there is a man-hunt underway we should never see their face of hear their name again. The only story that needs to be told is the story of the victims.

Perhaps the answer is as simple as the adults regaining control of the children. Parents are not meant to be friends with their children. Parents need to be parents, they are responsible for raising their off-spring. It seems that in the lives of some or most children today there is no discipline, none from their parents and those that are old enough to practice self-discipline are severely lacking in that arena. There was a time when I saw children I saw the next generation of citizens and it offered great hope for the continued success of this great Republic. In my outings to the local China-mart that vision sadly disappears. What I see is the next generation of inmates. When I see their parents I do not have to wonder why the child is behaving in such a manner. The parent, most often singular, does not give a crap how unruly their child is much less what the child does in the store. The child is a product of their upbringing or the lack of it, a reflection of the parent and life at home with the child being worse that the parent. When those children grow up and have children of their own they will be worse yet. The breakdown in society begins at the home and is only amplified outside the home and over time.

If the parent/s step up to the plate(become parents)most of this may fix itself and would not cost a dime. If it saves even one life it would be worth it.

Or just keep doing what you are doing and let the “village” raise your children and this crap will never stop. What we are doing aint working.

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Just too far apart

Liberals and Conservatives can work things out through compromise(negotiation), truth is they have much in common. Their differences are not all that far apart. They just have to hammer out the finer details. The same is not true of the Left and the Right, they have nothing in common. There are no finer details to hammer out. When it comes to compromise(give and take)with the left they are willing to give nothing and are only interested in how much the right is willing to give them. That is their idea of give and take, taking anything the right is willing to give. The Right and the Left have nothing in common on any issue.

As stated above the Right and Left have nothing in common, no common ground. They, the Left, cant be negotiated with, they seek no compromise. Yet many on the right believe, and wrongly so, that they can work out the differences between the Right and the Left. Here is how the Left negotiates with the Right. We(the Left)are going to cut off one of your arms. Here is what the right does. They present the left or right arm to be cut off and then claim that at least they(the Right)saved the other arm, or say at least we(the Right)did not lose both arms. You simply cant negotiate like that, the correct response would have been “No you(the Left)are not, You(the Left)will cut neither arm off”. No negotiation. No compromise.

Look at what happened in Broward County as a direct result of the PROMISE program. Criminal behavior and acivity were decriminalized because of a supposed school to prison pipeline. There is no direct path from school to prison. To get to prison one must be convicted of a crime serious enough to be sent to prison, that means that law-enforcement was involved. Crimes were overlooked and as such there was no punishment for criminal acts or behavior, no law-enforcement involvement. It seems that too many school children were having run-ins with law-enforcement in Broward County, making the school district look bad. In other words some if not many students were not conducting themselves in a legal and lawful manner so the school district intervened. Because laws were not being enforced one POS was able to legally acquire a firearm, one which he would later use to do exactly what he threatened to do. So in this instance it was the Left that had a program that decriminalized criminal activities and then demanded that non-criminal activities be criminalized. Lost yet? Had the laws already in place been enforced the shooter would have in most likelihood been denied the purchase of a firearm. But sadly we will never know for sure. What we do know for sure is that each and every 18, 19 and 20 year-old(unless in the military or law-enforcement)in the State of Florida is being penalized for the actions of one, just one, 19 year-old. The Left demanded more gun control and the Right offered up the less that 21 year-olds, they can no longer purchase long guns without meeting certain criteria. In fact all Floridians were offered up, as now there is a waiting period to purchase long-guns(unless the customer holds a CCW license). The laws on the books were not being enforced and yet more laws were demanded and enacted. Great, just great.

How are these laws going to effect the elections here in Florida? The gun control legislation in Florida was enacted with the support of the republicans, here the republicans control both Houses and the Governors office. The republicans running for re-election are going to have some explaining to do. They were elected to serve the State, not to vote away the rights of its citizens. States that have enacted onerous gun control laws that are firmly in the hands of the leftist democrats have little to worry about. But Florida? Nationally?

One thing that happened as a direct result of the shooting at MSD in Parkland was that the gun control cult has finally been unmasked, and they did it themselves(though most of us have long suspected). They have come right out and said it is time for the Second Amendment to be repealed. So all of their talk about “common sense reforms” when it come to firearms in the hands of normal citizens was and is just that, talk. They do not seek anything less than total disarmament of the general population. The Left wants the population disarmed, the Right wants to keep and bear arms. There is no middle ground here, but again the Right believes they can negotiate and compromise.

One thing the Left always screams for a more background checks. We already submit to background checks to purchase a firearm from a licensed firearms dealer. They claim it is to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But how good is a background check if the information is missing or inaccurate? If the young chap in Parkland had been arrested for his many episodes would he have been able to pass a background check? Would his butt have been sitting in jail or prison instead of taking those innocent lives?

So let us stick with background checks for just a moment. As far as legal immigration is concerned a person legally entering this country must pass a background check including a health screening and submit to several interviews. The same cant be said of illegals entering this country, there is no background check, no interview, no health screening, no nothing. When anybody and everybody is let in you have no idea who or what is among us. So the left does not really give a tinker’s damn about background checks.

The Left likes to promote and throw their idea of gun control(gun confiscation)in the country’s collective face, using the UK and Australia as an example.. The UK has some pretty restrictive gun laws. I am sure that by now most everyone has seen the video of the man with a knife keeping a large body of law-enforcement at bay. Even chasing them, first one then another. It looked a bit like an old Keystone Cops episode. Thing is the Keystone Cops were meant to be funny, you know poking fun. I was actually embarrassed for the UK police force, humiliating video. But even with the strict gun laws in the UK there are still reports of people getting shot. But in addition to people still getting shot they now have new threats, knives and acid. People being stabbed and most often being killed and acid attacks leaving the victims horribly disfigured. Not to mention the occasional motor vehicle being used as weapon. The city of London surpassed New York City in murders for two straight months. What is the Mayor of London concerned about? Fat food ads. Seems like not all that long ago NY city had a Mayor with similar concerns. Recently Australia, also having restrictive gun laws, suffered the first mass shooting in over two decades. Clever wording the report said first mass shooting not first shooting.

Back to America and the Leftist enclaves. If your so-called gun control laws worked the cities and states with the strictest gun laws would be the safest. The opposite is true, the cities with the strictest gun laws are the most violent and dangerous cities in this land. They are also the most crime infested. It is the law-abiding citizens who are the losers, while the criminal element enjoys the upper hand. Law-enforcement just cant keep up. I could not imagine being afraid to sit on my front porch at night because I might become the victim of a drive-by shooting. Nor could I imagine sitting in my house behind locked doors out of fear even in broad daylight. Criminals do tend to operate most effectively in areas where they will face the least resistance. The opposite is true, they tend to avoid areas where they don’t have the upper hand, facing resistance and possibly(most likely)armed resistance at that.

The Right can no longer foolishly believe that the Left can be reasoned with, negotiated with or compromised with. The time has come to say “No more”. Perhaps it is time to tell them to go piss up a rope. The left has renounced reason.

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The liberals in a nut shell

They are for the death penalty as long as the condemned is still in the womb. Other wise they are totally against putting a person to death. Kind of seems backwards to me, willing to condemn the innocent but protecting the life of the guilty.

They fight tooth and nail against voter ID laws, claiming it imposes undue hardships on the poor. I guess that the poor can not afford a picture ID. Yet they have never proposed legislation that would provide a photo ID at taxpayer expense for the poorest. I can not understand why they never propose such legislation especially when they believe that government is always the solution. I also wonder why the republicans never propose this.

They are for religious expression as long as Christianity is not the religion being expressed. They are for free speech as long as everyone is saying what they are saying or what they want to hear. If it goes against what they say, think or believe then they call it hate speech. They demand to be heard while demanding others be silent. They don’t really have to worry about the press, the press is in their corner. They would rather have the First Amendment repealed than have to contend with differing view points.

They support the Second Amendment as it pertains to hunting, except for those that have come right and said the Second Amendment should be repealed. Problem with that cupcake is that the Second Amendment was not written to allow hunting. You can read the Second Amendment forwards, backwards and even upside down and you will not find the words hunting, target practice or sports shooting. The Second Amendment was written for a specific purpose and reason.

They only want to ban scary looking rifles and high-capacity magazines. They even come up with new words, their new one is military grade. The old one was assault weapon. They say no one should be allowed to have military grade weapons but the military and law-enforcement. I believe the correct term would be Mil-Spec(Military Specification). But you could not call the AR-15 a Mil-Spec weapon could you? The AR-15 is not made to Military Specifications, it is a modern sporting rifle made for civilian use.

But then that is what you do you use words, more accurately use a play on words. You cant really come out and say you are pro-abortion, can you? That would equate to being pro-death. So you use the phrase pro-choice, by using the word choice it gives the impression that what happens was the choice of all. The truth of the matter is that the one directly effected by the “choice” had no “choice” in the matter. So lets look at some of your other plays on words.

When it comes to gun-control you use phrases like;
End gun-violence. Why do you never speak of ending violence? The U.K. banned guns and that did not end or stop crimes committed with a firearm, they still happen. They may have lees crimes committed with a firearm than here in the U.S., but for two straight months this year(Feb and Mar)the murder rate in London surpassed the murder rate in N.Y. City. The residents of London now have to contend with knife-crimes and acid-crimes(violent acts committed with a knife or acid). So the U.K. stopped the mass shootings, sort of, and now they face the possibility of mass stabbings and acid attacks. Now London lawmakers are having to come up with laws to control knives and acid. They now have to end knife-violence and acid-violence. Our northern neighbors had an act of violence that involved a man driving a van on a sidewalk and mowing down pedestrians, 10 dead and 15 injured. He used neither a gun, knife or acid his weapon of choice was a motor vehicle. A person intent on killing or maiming will use whatever tool is available. Neither the gun, the knife, the acid nor the motor vehicle is violent on its own in each case it takes a human to use those items in a violent manner. For you it is not about ending violence, it is about ending guns in the hands of the citizens(law-abiding citizens). If your gun-control measures worked the most violent cities in this land would be the safest, but it is the exact opposite.

We have to do it for the children. You really expect me to believe that you care about children when far more are murdered by abortion. Enough said on this one.

If it saves just one life it is worth it. My question is worth what? You and I both know that there is no way to prove that even one life was saved. This simply can not be measured. Besides some in your camp(cult)have come out and said that no legislation could have prevented______(fill in the blank).

And then there is everyone’s favorite. We just did not go far enough.

Now that the gun-control cult has been outed, your far enough in that matter is the repeal of the Second Amendment and banning all firearms from the public. You are okay with the military and law-enforcement having all of the guns, well all of them but what the criminals have. The criminals will still have guns. Maybe you should look back in history, not that far back either, and see what happens to the civilian population when they are deprived of the tools to defend themselves. There was a reason that the Founders and Framers included a Bill of Rights, in particular the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Read about Boston, Lexington Green and Concord. Read the Declaration of Independence. Read the Constitution, there was a reason the Founders and Framers did not want a full-time standing army, if they did not want a full-time army they certainly had no intention of giving them all of the guns. Since law-enforcement is part of the government local, state and federal they certainly never meant for government to have all of the guns either. They also never meant for the people to be deprived of arms, if they had they would have said so.

Speaking of the Constitution you use it to your advantage when it suits your agenda. Take the Electoral College for instance, when your guy wins the Electoral vote you shout to the world that the system works, you do not mention the popular vote unless you by chance get both. When your guy, or in this case gal, loses the Electoral vote but wins the popular vote you scream that the election was illegitimate the Electoral College is outdated and does not represent America. When it comes to the Second Amendment you say the Founding Fathers never intended for us to have _____(fill in the blank). You use the equal protection clause for every group but Christians and gun owners.

They want every person in this country to vote in the elections regardless of citizenship. I guess not enough legal citizens supported your candidate, you need some illegal support. Win any way you can, right? You really are an obstructionist when it comes to securing the border. Would you act the same if those coming here illegally were apt to vote republican? While on this subject, you are having a “kitten” over the citizenship question being talked about when the new census comes out. You want to count heads not citizens. Why? Seats in the house are based on population, the number of citizens not heads. You could stand to lose some House seats, reports have it that there has been an exodus of citizens from your liberal leftist states. Not to mention the money that flows to states is also based on population. If it was the way it was you would have to send money to D.C. based on the census, you would kick the illegals out so fast and hard they would bounce three times before coming to a rest on the other side of the border and build a wall a hundred feet tall and ten feet thick with a minefield to keep them out.

What is going to happen on your march to go far enough? This question sets up another post.

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If only it were possible

This month April has much significance in American history, both good and bad. Since this is such a historical month I thought it would be fun and a learning experience to send some people back in time to relive those events. You know sort of experience history firsthand.

I think first I would like to send the leaders of the gun control cult back in time to Boston, Concord and Lexington Green on say about the 17th of April, 1775. I figure that way they would live the tense moments leading up to the events of the 19th of April, 1775 when the shot that was heard around the world was fired. Yep, they would get to see the British troops marching through the streets. They would get to see and experience firsthand what happens when a government turns on its own people. Leaving them there long enough so they would learn and then bring them back.

Then I would pack them up again and send them to Philadelphia to witness the drafting and signing of the Declaration of Independence on about the 1st of July 1776 and leave them there until the 4th. Then bring them back once again.

Next I would send them to Yorktown, VA. on say about the 16th of October, 1781. They could witness the last few days of war and on the 19th they could watch the British surrender. Here they would learn a very important lesson. They would learn that guns can be used for evil or for good. The British were using guns for evil, to force by the use of arms the colonies comply and be forever subjugated. The Colonials(Americans)were using guns for good, to gain Independence(not to be subjugated). Then again bring them back to the present.

Next I would pack them off the Philadelphia for the second time in the Spring of 1787. Then and there they could witness the Constitution the debates and perhaps gain an understanding of why a bill of rights was added, including the Second Amendment they so despise. They would also understand why the Founders and Framers had no desire to have a full-time standing army. They had not long since defeated a standing army of the Crown. An army that had turned on the citizens(subjects)of the Colonies. The King had declared the Colonies out of his protection and sent his army and army of mercenaries to force the Colonials into submission. Basically the King declared war on his own people(subjects). If the King could declared them out of his protection that would leave one to believe that they were under his protection previous to being out of his protection. They trusted him to protect them yet he offered no protection instead attacked them and their rights. Then once again bring them back to the present.

Why keep bringing them back you ask? To let them reflect of what they are attempting to do. But if they still did not understand I would pack them off one more time. This time the dead of winter, the night of December 25th and morning of December 26th, 1776. They could witness firsthand the lengths men will go to just to be free, independent and guarantee their rights, their God-given rights. Crossing the icy Delaware River at night on Christmas just to attack an enemy.

Just putting this out. Why are some Americans so concerned over the antics of the royal family? I care not that one of them has uploaded or downloaded, I care not if a royal pooch expired. My ancestors fought them and drove them out.

Just for fun I would like to go back to October the 20th 1781 and bring back a few of those brave and heroic Colonials(Americans)and let them see what has become of what they so valiantly fought for and handed down to us. I would ask them, Was it worth it and would you do it again knowing what has become of this precious gift? How would they answer?

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